Sometimes the onus of civility is heavy.

As for Steve – I really want to believe you. Apart from the absurd suggestion that she would accept $9 for sex what you say makes intuitive sense. (possibly, if she wanted the sex anyway she would take the money anyway for a small contribution to the cocaine, but that’s highly unlikely)
If there was no knife and no rape at knife point, then the sentence makes far more sense…. but where’s the evidence? Surely someone has some evidence? Are court records public?

Apart from that, if you’re lying… what the fuck is wrong with you? Someone got raped and you feel entitled to go onto blogs and just make shit up about them… because what? Their gender? You’re a lying shitweasel with no empathy who is actively spreading misinformation that may well hinder people’s understanding that older female on male child rape is often overlooked and underpunished, and for that I hope bad things happen to you. Not rape, even scum like you don’t deserve that. I hope all your hair falls out. Then you get psoriasis all over your body, and eczema on you psoriasis.

Ender, the policy here is that you are not allowed to personally attack posters — TS

There’s a current case where the sentence is awaited for next week.

In 1990 A 55 yr. old Father sexually abused his son.
He stated that he developed a homosexual orientation after his divorce.
Because it was his first delinquency in this sphere he got away with only a probation period. Nothing else.
Some time after this he became HIV positive.

In Spring 2007 he abused again an 14 yr. old boy (who was mentally at the state of an 6 yr. old) that he came in contact with through his friend, who for his part gave private lessons.
He abused him two times and transmitted the HI virus to him. The abuse became known due to the infection of the 14 yr. old.

Now he is accused of sexual abuse (again) in two cases, wrongful detention and grievous bodily harm.
Sentence: up to 15 years. However, the court discusses preventive detention and it’s very likely that they will agree to this sanction.
The judge in this case is a female but I think that is not relevant.

I forgot to mention that for all mentioned cases acces to documents is available at the regional court of Munich.
For the last lawsuit that is still going on it will be after it’s done. (A few weeks).
The documents are available in german only. Sry.

Excellent work TS.

Regarding the topic I must find my self reminded of the german law and it’s strange criterion of assesment for economic crimes vs. almost anything else.
Over here it’s pretty much the same with sexual abuse perpetrators.
Only difference: Men get away with ridiculous sentences as well as women. At least if it’s their first or second sentence.

If not, they may spend quite a couple years in prison.
If they are released, and it was their first or second insentencement, no one really cares what they do.

However, it is interesting to see that there are more and more cases with female perpetrators of sexual abuse.
Even if there are more males who report this crime, in my opinion, the changes in society and male/female rolemodel have some influence on the number of female offenders.

As a child of 8 or 9 years, I myself was only interested in girls who were at least teenagers, and later when I was the teen, the interesting girls were at least 20+ years.
There were some good reasons for me to create this search pattern.
On the one hand I was pretty precocious and had little to no use of the topics my agemates were concerned with, on the other hand I simply preferred (and still do) tall women.

In consideration of this, my own experience, conjointly (or is it “by mutual consent”?) sexual activity or relationships between adolescents (in this context appr. 9 yr. to 16 yr., where the latter is the german minimum legal age for any relationship) and older persons should be judged less strictly. I can’t see there any relation to rape as long as all participants really had the power of decision.
Yes, I’m aware of the fact that many physiological, psychological and cultural aspect must be taken into consideration for this “power of decision” but that’s maybe a little to OT.

So, what created the unrealistic picture of accused persons and especially women?
One thing for sure is the rolemodel and therewith the culture. The emotional distance to other people and less strong interpersonal contacts are a logical reason for the high number of unrecorded cases.
Sadly true emotional distance is nowadays considered a must have.
To commit such a crime one must be somehow mental ill because there is obviously an unability to act thoughtful in the real world, and/or lack of development of interpersonal skills and competence. The diagnosis of paraphilic disorder is only the end of some process and thus it’s crucial to pay attention to such a process since rapists obviously don’t fall from the sky all of a sudden.

This 9$ thing is an interesting fact. The prosecuting lawyer should have turned this to “the boy was forced to hand out his money at knifepoint” and thus it’s some sort of larceny with aggravated assault and maybe even approving the victims death. AFAIK this would be violent felony offense (at least in germany) and combined with sexual abuse it wont result in less than 3 years.

But without keeping this criminal under observation any sentence is rather worthless. Preventive detention might also be a solution in some cases but here in germany they make rarely use of it because of the very high costs that inmates causes. That’s something between 700€ up to 1600€ per day…

Oh, and finally two german court proceedings that I studied lately wich are almost as ridiculous as the 9$ repay:

1) Someone was accused and convicted for 9 cases of bank robbery. There were no human victims at all, “only” intimidation with a pickaxe. He has aggregated a total of about 1.8 million €.
Sentence: 14 yrs. imprisonment and following preventive detention.

2) Similar as above case. One Person, 9 cases of bank robbery, no deadly violence. The weapons were a pickaxe and a pistol to intimidate the employees. Sentence: max. 15 yrs. with the option of early release.

The max. sentence for rape is 6 yrs. (for adults as well as adolescents) if there was heavy violence included.
For rape with murder and murder in general it’s max 15 yrs. or 13 yrs. for adolescents.

You say the boy was 16? Well i seem to recall seeing pictures of him and he damn sure doesn’t look 16.

Another obvious lie here is that no prostitute would give you ANYTHING for 9$, i dont care who you are.

Congrats to you tho for justifying a child rape. A man would have gotten 10-20 years for this, yet she isn’t going to serve any more than 4 or 5 months!