A Tahlequah woman was charged Thursday with six felony counts stemming from her alleged relationship with a 14-year-old boy she met at a women’s shelter.
Court records show an arrest warrant has been issued for Tina Anne Marie Unger (Shell), 20, after prosecutors charged her with three counts of first-degree rape, two counts of lewd molestation, and a single count of soliciting sexual conduct or communication with a minor by use of technology. All the incidents allegedly occurred March 14-21.
An affidavit by Lt. Jonathan Wells states he was sent to the Help-In-Crisis shelter March 24, where he met with the boy’s mother. She told police she had been staying at the shelter, and her son came to visit her during spring break. The boy purportedly formed a bond with Unger while at the shelter, and his mother became suspicious of the relationship.
Unlike the previous instance I posted about several years ago, the women in charge of the shelter actually reported the rapes to the police instead of helping the rapist get away. Unger admits to raping the boy, although she does not agree to how many times it happened or who initiated it (as if it matters). The woman potentially faces a lot of time (between 9 to 75 years), however, if she manages to plea bargain down to just soliciting sexual conduct she will only have to pay a $10,000 fine. Most likely this woman will walk, probably citing some past experience of abuse as her reason for raping the boy.
That said, one must wonder how frequently this occurs in women’s shelters. It is not like those who run the shelters regularly acknowledge female violence in general, and they certainly have no incentive to acknowledge that it occurs in their shelters. Perhaps had the boy’s mother not been so adamant about protecting her son, the women in charge might have swept this under the rug.
This is not to say that women’s shelters are bastions of female child rapists, but given the generally permissive attitude towards female violence in those places and how easily concerned women who may have nowhere to go can be silenced, it is food for thought.
The Patriarchal system wants men and women to be equal, and this is the result.
Women have taken on the behaviour of the males.
That is not to say that there always were women abusers.
Many abused boys and girls become abusers..
The system carefully uses propaganda to pit men against women, in a divide and conquer style, and it is working well.
However, women raping boys always gets more publicity than men raping girls, as that is taken as normal somehow.
So, I researched to see at what point in his-story were women deemed lower then men.
This was in the church under Augustine, who deemed to have no souls and to to be worthless whores and guilty of all sin.
This is in our collective consciousness, and displays itself in the media in articles like the above.
The book Eve Was Framed points out so well how women are viewed so much more evil than men in court and receive much longer sentences.
A barrister wrote this book as proof of the real truth.
I cannot tell if you are being serious or facetious in your comment. If it is the latter, it would be better to avoid doing that because people will take your comments seriously. If you are serious, I am not sure where you got those ideas from.
There have always been women abusers. Most abused children do not become abusers. Women who rape boys does not get more publicity than men raping girls. You can check this by typing “rape” and “sexual assault” into a search engine and checking the news articles listed. The majority of them are males assaulting females and the few that do mention women assaulting males only occasionally call it “rape” or “sexual assault.”
Given the religious comments and the subject of this thread, the moniker (I am assuming it is not your real name) Lilith is an interesting choice.
Lilith Barrett wrote…
The Patriarchal system wants men and women to be equal, and this is the result.
Women have taken on the behaviour of the males.
Seems an attempt to blame men for womens’ independant commission of sexual abuse. Logically inconsistant ultimately.
Lilith Barrett wrote…
That is not to say that there always were women abusers.
One should simply say there always were because that IS the reality.
Lilith Barrett wrote…
Many abused boys and girls become abusers.
More correctly the vast majority do not. Fewer than one in seven will take this path and it mostly occurs because they are marginalised in some way – a fate male victims and victims of female abusers know well. Much of this marginalisation is consequent upon the actions of those also espousing notions of “patriarchy” incidentally.
Lilith Barrett wrote…
The system carefully uses propaganda to pit men against women, in a divide and conquer style, and it is working well.
The system? Do you mean that patriarchy? The patriarchy that refuses to call to order the sexual abusers of their scions? That patriarchy?
Interestingly within my state’s sexual assault counselling network it is commonly discussed that all instances of “dividing and conquering” within their system emanate from feminists.
Lilith Barrett wrote…
However, women raping boys always gets more publicity than men raping girls, as that is taken as normal somehow.
Absolutely false. I know of only ONE instance of media coverage which actually used the word “rape” at all with regard to a woman abusing a boy. However in certain respects you are correct. Convicted female rapists are presented as celebrities by media doyens. They are given forums in which to put their side, and only their side, of the story with no hard questions asked. By wealthy, influential, feminist, “advocates for rape victims” no less. They are magnificently applauded after which the entire package is beamed globally to hundreds of millions of women for their “entertainment”. In my country womens’ magazines pay travel and living costs enabling foreign female internet kid groomers to consumate their lust and then present these packages to my countrywomen as cute romances – for the sponso…er…cover price of course. That same entire country recently went into apoplexy – up to and including our Prime Minister – because of ONE coy photo of a naked girl in a photographer’s exhibition. Meanwhile schoolkids can go to our local library and look at as many pictures of naked little boys as they wish.
Shall we now discuss “rape culture”?
Lilith Barrett wrote…
So, I researched to see at what point in his-story were women deemed lower then men.
“his-story”?
At this point we begin to discover some possible bases to your confused contribution. This discussion is about an instance of sexual abuse committed by a woman against a boy in a womens refuge. The real relevance of implications of male domination of history, true or not, are lost on me I’m afraid.
In my experience those who choose to expropriate the language in this manner – and for political purpose – tend to have a shallow knowledge base. It smacks of “sloganeering”. I truly hope, based on contributions I’ve seen from you elsewhere, that you can dissuade me from the notion that you have no concept of, nor empathy for, the dynamics that exist in this type of abuse.
Lilith Barrett wrote…
This was in the church under Augustine, who deemed to have no souls and to to be worthless whores and guilty of all sin.
That same Christian church is the source of the perverted form of chivalry that pedastalises women to this day. It is part source of the perverted Victorian moral set applied so inconsistantly by feminism and which, additionally, treats women as victims even should they be a perpetrator.
Lilith Barrett wrote…
This is in our collective consciousness, and displays itself in the media in articles like the above.
Quite the contrary. Our collective conciousness holds that in an act of sexual impropriety any woman involved IS a victim, even if she be the perpetrator, even if she is the only adult in the exchange.
Lilith Barrett wrote…
The book Eve Was Framed points out so well how women are viewed so much more evil than men in court and receive much longer sentences.
Eve was wrong. Actual examination of judicial outcomes throughout the west proves punishments to be three times greater for males than females in virtually ALL instances. Notably for significant periods of our history men were held legally responsible for their female relative’s crimes. In my country the gap in sentences for male and female heterosexual rapists is infinite!
Lilith Barrett wrote…
A barrister wrote this book as proof of the real truth.
That barrister clearly had no informed basis for that position. All the evidence demonstrates the exact opposite.
Ultimately, try as I might, I cannot possibly fathom your motivation for posting. Is there some suggestion that mysoginy is at the root of media coverage of somebody who appears to have committed a sexual offence? A “mysoginy” of biblical proportions? Is there some reason why it should not be reported? I do very much hope you are not suggesting the circumstance as descibed should NOT be viewed as a crime.
“The Patriarchal system wants men and women to be equal, and this is the result.
Women have taken on the behaviour of the males.”
So, abuse (in this case rape) is a “male behavior,” not simply an abhorent act of HUMAN behavior?
And the women who commit these acts are not a fault for what they do, they are being forced to do it, due to the “Patriarchal system?” They have no will or mind of their own, to know right from wrong?
I’m unsure of which group of people you hold in lower standing: males or females? Pehaps you could clear that up for me?
Abusive behavior is not inherent upon gender, though. And you are wrong to insinuate that it is. Women who act out abusively are also making their own choices, not doing what the “Patriarcal system” demands of them. You are also wrong to insinuate otherwise on that, as well. You should correct this massive misinformation, as someone might think you know what you are talking about.