A Dose of Stupid v.10

It happens every day. In fact, it is pretty hard to avoid it. There are some things that can only be understood with a slap on the forehead. Things so mind-boggling that one wonders how humans managed to evolve thumbs while being this mentally inept. Case in point:

More than 100 New York feminist leaders released a joint statement Sunday afternoon criticizing Hillary Clinton and supporting Obama for president – evidence that Clinton’s support among women activists has declined significantly in the days before the super-Tuesday primary.

Clinton’s support for the war in Iraq was the leading reason she lost the support of the group, which calls itself “New York Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama!” “We urgently need a presidential candidate whose first priority is to address domestic needs,” the group added.

This sound rather promising until:

“Choosing to support Senator Obama was not an easy decision for us,” the group stated, “because electing a woman president would be a cause for celebration in itself.” They “deplored” the “sexist attacks against Senator Clinton that have circulated in the media.” But, they stated, they nevertheless supported Obama because his election “would be another historic achievement” and because “his support for gender equality has been unwavering.”

The group based their opposition to Clinton on “her seven-year record as senator.” Despite her recent pledges to remove troops from Iraq, the group stated, Clinton’s “record of embracing military solutions and the foreign policy advisers she has selected make us doubt that she will end this calamitous war.”

In short, the woman pissed them off so they went with the black guy, not because they necessarily agree with his politics (if they did they would have endorsed him to begin with) but because he the politically correct choice. Classy.

Coincidentally, Obama becoming president would not be another historic achievement. It would be the historic achievement. People seem to forget that it was not too long ago that people of African descent were not even considered fully human. This country owes a far greater debt to non-Caucasian people than it does to women (I do not recall any natural disasters ravaging a city populated mostly by women and those women being called refugees in their own country) , and having Obama as president would show that race is beginning not to matter.

And at the most basic level, if one is going to support or vote for a candidate, do it because you agree with that person’s position and politics, not out of spite for another candidate.

11 thoughts on “A Dose of Stupid v.10

  1. In short, the woman pissed them off so they went with the black guy, not because they necessarily agree with his politics (if they did they would have endorsed him to begin with) but because he the politically correct choice. Classy.

    I think you’re being a bit harsh of them here. Their explanation is based around the candidates policies. In the absence of policies I think it’s natural for a feminist to default to the symbol of a female president. It seems they weighed the policies and came up with Obama. Their reference to “historic achievement” was to avoid any indication that they thought a female president would be more historically significant than a non-white one.

  2. One would think they should not default to any female candidate because feminists are supposedly against favoring one gender over another. If they favor Obama, that is fine, but it should be done because they actually did weigh his policies, not out of what looks like spite because their favored candidate did not play to their expectations.

  3. Obama might also have the advantage of actually being able to get some work done in a bi-partisan way – Hillary having spent much of her career annoying the right. (Remember her calling Petraeus a liar?) I also think it might fundamentally change the way minorities, and especially blacks see the country. There might still be barriers in some places, in some corporations and clubs – but the country would now have shown that its democracy is truly for everyone. And looking at the other candidates, he might even be the best one for the job. I know depending on who nails the nomination on the right, he might have my vote – and I am by no means alone.

    Oh, and given the current misandrous bent of our government, do we really need a woman president?

  4. I do not think having a female president is a problem. It simply depends on what her policies would be and whether she would focus more on playing to special interests groups like the ones in the article or whether she would focus more on the needs of the country and its people as a whole. If there were a female candidate like Obama who did not play to other people’s expectations then I would be glad to have her as president.

  5. From what I read of her policies and her general attitude I would love to see the second coming of a Margaret Thatcher.

  6. I can think of any number of women who are ready to be president right now. I can’t think of any that would be as inspring as Barack, but that is not a disqualifier. They would still do a great job. One of my senators, Patty Murray, would be great. Or ofr that matter our governor, Christine Gregoire, would be excellent. She has all the things people extol in Clinton, and none of the negatives.

    Clinton’ biggest problem for me is her experience, the very thing her campaign is built on. The Clinton years were nothing to brag about – ignoring the growth of the Islamist threat, funny business with China, the whole bubble economy, that we are beginnig to pay for finally, and so on. She is more of the same as Bush and the Rove machine. Clinton male and Newt Gringrich and Karl Rove and the whole God-damned Religous Right, may they all be blown to Hell – it’s all the same ball of snakes.

    “This country owes a far greater debt to non-Caucasian people than it does to women (I do not recall any natural disasters ravaging a city populated mostly by women and those women being called refugees in their own country) ,”

    1. No one owes people a thing because they choose to settle and choose to stay in a place that is below sea level and that gets flooded because of it. This is America, founded and populated by people who left the shitholes they were born in. No sympathy for people who can’t do the same.

    2. So as far as any other debt goes, that would be treading on the Odious Comparison ground. That would stepping in that “the black man built America” bullshit.

  7. No one owes people a thing because they choose to settle and choose to stay in a place that is below sea level and that gets flooded because of it. This is America, founded and populated by people who left the shitholes they were born in. No sympathy for people who can’t do the same.

    The people who lived in that area did not leave the shitholes they were born in. Their ancestors were forcibly brought here and used as slave labor and only begrudgingly freed and allowed to participate as quasi-citizens. Furthermore, these peoples’ tax dollars were used to fund groups like FEMA by the current administration who pretended to be unaware that a giant ball of wind and rain visible from space was heading towards those peoples’ homes. Curiously, when two years later massive fires on the west coast burned down dozens of wealthy and rich LA homes the same administration did not hesitate to send FEMA immediately. And none of the people who lost their homes were called refugees either.

    So as far as any other debt goes, that would be treading on the Odious Comparison ground. That would stepping in that “the black man built America” bullshit.

    No, it would be stating that even today race still matters, and the darker one’s skin is the more likely one will be treated differently. That is one of the reasons why Obama is such a surprising candidate. It appears that even in states where historically race has been and still is a major issue he gets that state’s support.

  8. One would think they should not default to any female candidate because feminists are supposedly against favoring one gender over another.

    From what I’ve read, most feminists see great value in the image of a female president. Ironically they seem to be gender essentialists on issues of image.

    Furthermore, these peoples’ tax dollars were used to fund groups like FEMA by the current administration

    I remember reading somewhere that FEMA’s role is more of a long term disaster recovery rather than the dealing with the immediate short term issues and problems. And that it was the local & state authorities that were primarily the difference between the response during the California fires. Of course the fact that the neo-con strategy of just handing out cash doesn’t work in a locality where the economy can’t support an emergency supply industry doesn’t help much either.

  9. TS, you know very well I was referring to New Orleans as the shithole. That’s what everyone else calls it too.

    FEMA in LA? FEMA showed up and did nothing that mattered. California doesn’t need the federal government for anything, and it knows better than to count on them for anything. Wildfires are something California deals with on an annual basis. California wrote the book on dealing with them, the procedure everyone in the West, including Canada, has adopted.

    Masses of black people left the South for what they hoped was a better life. New Orleans is a shithole, like so much of the South, and has been for decades; people who stay there get exactly what they ask for.

    All that aside, Obama is important on many levels, and race is one of those levels. It is telling that his race and whether or not he is really balck has been much more a topic of discussion on black blogs and meida than in the mainstream. Gender has been the issue in the mainstream discussion, and done to death. This morning our female governor came out in favor of Obama.

  10. From what I’ve read, most feminists see great value in the image of a female president. Ironically they seem to be gender essentialists on issues of image.

    That is one of the reasons I do not agree with feminism or feminist views.

    I remember reading somewhere that FEMA’s role is more of a long term disaster recovery rather than the dealing with the immediate short term issues and problems. And that it was the local & state authorities that were primarily the difference between the response during the California fires.

    According to FEMA’s mission statement it is supposed to assist in the case of any kind of national disaster, be it man-made or natural. If I recall correctly, FEMA must be applied for in order for its services to be given for local disasters, but I think the President can also order FEMA to assist locales damaged by disaster. I agree though that part of the problem was the slow response of local authorities.

  11. TS, you know very well I was referring to New Orleans as the shithole. That’s what everyone else calls it too.

    Actually, I did not. However, the point is that many of those people simply could not up and leave and it is unfair to judge them by the actions of families from two generations ago. That said, New Orleans is not exactly a safe place, so it cannot be unexpected that something like Katrina would happen. I think the difference is how the peopel were treated and that it was blatantly biased.

    All that aside, Obama is important on many levels, and race is one of those levels. It is telling that his race and whether or not he is really balck has been much more a topic of discussion on black blogs and meida than in the mainstream.

    I found that quite interesting. The black community often bemoans the lack of black leaders and the moment one comes along the first issue they have with him is not his policies or his positions but whether he fits into some superficial stereotype of what counts as being black.

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