Losing religion

A video of a young man coming out to his family has gone viral. Daniel Ashley Pierce recorded an “intervention” his family set up to confront him about being gay. Their reaction is  tragic, abusive, and a testament to the profound stupidity of holding onto ancient religious beliefs.

That is not how to react to your child coming out as gay. Most astonishing is that one of Daniel’s family members admits that she had known Daniel was gay since he was a little boy. Yet she rejected the scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice.

There is no choice involved. Obviously a person can choose what acts to engage in, but in terms of desires, that is built in. What Daniel’s family member implies is that as a boy, let us say five-years-old, Daniel consciously decided to like boys even though he knew his parents would object. He maintained this choice for the next 15 years, despite all the trauma and conflict it would cause.

Just one question: why?

Why would anyone choose to subject themselves to the anger, humiliation, and hatred shown in the video? Why would any child choose to do this? Remember, we are talking about the same type of people who will stop using a folder if the rest of their class makes fun of it. We are supposed to believe that a child cannot endure that basic level of mockery, but they are perfectly fine with the chances of being kicked out of their home?

It is preposterous.

I must admit that this is rather personal for me because a familial situation. Readers may notice that I have not posted as much in the last two months. This is because my family has been dealing with a situation similar to Daniel’s.

Last year, my godson came out. We all suspected that he was gay for some time. He made a joke of it. He used his New Year’s resolution to say, “My New Year’s resolution is to always tell the truth. I’m gay. Next.” His oldest brother replied with, “You can’t tell us something we already know.” That was the most anyone made of it.

When my godson began high school this year, he met a boy. They became friends and casually ended up “dating.” (I put it in quotes because all they are doing is playing music and video games together.)

At the end of June, the boy decided to tell his Irish Catholic parents that he is gay. He brought my godson with him. His parents had met my godson and apparently liked him. However, it went poorly. The boy’s mother physically forced both boys out of the house and locked them out. My godson called him mother, and when she arrived the boy’s parents would not let her in either. She ended up yelling at them through the door, which prompted a neighbor to call the police. The parents would not let the police in either. They did eventually agree to allow my godson’s mother to take their son. He has been with us since then, and it has not gotten better.

I find it bizarre that anyone could disown their child for something so trivial. Normally I have little problem putting myself in someone else’s position, but I simply cannot fathom how any parent could treat their child this way. I cannot see any good reason for doing it.

How can you treat a person that way and not feel guilty?

I hope that Daniel has the support that my godson’s boyfriend has gotten from us. I would like to think it has helped him cope to a degree. I cannot imagine how hard it would be to have no one there to back you up after something as tragic as what happened in that video.

The one good thing I think comes from Daniel’s video is that people can show that to Christian fundamentalists. Perhaps if they see and hear what they look and sound like when they say such hurtful things they may understand why they ought not say them.

It is interesting that the man they call god spent his time with the undesirables of his day. He would have been more likely to spend time with Daniel than Daniel’s family. Funny how so many fundamentalists claim to live by Jesus’ example but when given the chance they  rarely do.

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13 thoughts on “Losing religion

  1. And what do you want to bet that loving family has members who divorced, and who fail to uphold the Bible’s instructions to women to submit to their husbands? How many of those “godly” family members had teen children who bore babies out of wedlock? And yet they believe one gay kid is going to tear down society…..

  2. “Trivial”? Hardly. It’s definitely not trivial for the families involved, hence their angry, bewildered, and disappointed reactions. And It doesn’t sound so trivial if you’ve been prevented from posting for two months because of it. Typical shitlib BS.

  3. Meh, that stuff’s not good, but I don’t expect the family to embrace his preferences either. Homosexual acts are disgusting and perverted. No self-respecting man should be okay with his son engaging in that sort of behavior.

  4. How can you support men’s rights, yet venomously attack religions that take a stand against degenerate behavior that makes men weak? You sure seem eager to tip that fedora of yours.

    The same “religious fundamentalism” you seem so bigoted towards stands for masculinity and traditional, patriarchal gender roles. You are playing right into the feminist’s trap. In fact, it’s likely the feminists have deployed disinfo agents to say the exact sort of things you’re saying: to create infighting within the manosphere by lumping feminist-pushed “gay rights” with men’s rights, and thereby alienating traditionalists from their natural masculinist allies.

  5. toplel: First the term is “masculist” and second … Huh? Disinfo agents? Life’s a matter of nature and nurture. The “born that way” paradigm negates the pervasive influence of child sexual abuse. I disagree with that. But disinfo agents?

  6. I’m just pointing out that I’m sure feminists are doing all they can to tear apart the men’s rights movement and bring it under their control, to make it co-opted for their agenda.

  7. Toplel:

    How can you support men’s rights, yet venomously attack religions that take a stand against degenerate behavior that makes men weak? You sure seem eager to tip that fedora of yours.

    Two answers. One, I am not a men’s rights activist. Two, I have little toleration for stupid, particularly the kind caused by fairy tails and conspiracy theories. As for “degenerate behavior that makes men weak”, you should know that the Spartans and Samurai, two groups considered to be the most manly and fierce warriors to ever exist, engaged in said “degenerate behavior” and thought that it made them more manly.

    The same “religious fundamentalism” you seem so bigoted towards stands for masculinity and traditional, patriarchal gender roles.

    That is a nice try, but I do not prescribe to any “traditional, patriarchal gender roles”.

    You are playing right into the feminist’s trap.

    No, but you are trying very hard to get me to.

    In fact, it’s likely the feminists have deployed disinfo agents to say the exact sort of things you’re saying: to create infighting within the manosphere by lumping feminist-pushed “gay rights” with men’s rights, and thereby alienating traditionalists from their natural masculinist allies.

    Or you could be the one attempting to “create infighting within the manosphere” by writing the above comments. Honestly, give me some credit. I may not be the smartest person on the planet, but I am far to smart to fall for some half=witted ploy to trick me into defending something so some feminist can use it to attack me.

  8. Homosexuality not a choice?

    Well, duh!

    People honestly think that any man would choose to be straight if he had a choice?

    Cuz getting sex from women is just soooo much easier.

    Morons.

  9. Laguna:

    It’s definitely not trivial for the families involved, hence their angry, bewildered, and disappointed reactions.

    What are they angry, bewildered, and disappointed about? Nothing stops gay people from having families. They have the same relationships straight people do. The only difference is the sex of the other partner. There is nothing to be angry about. One might be surprised by the revelation, but why disappointed? What has the person done to disappoint you? One would think that if a parent raised their child to value monogamous relationships that led to a family that the child would still want this. Again, the only difference would be who they wanted it with.

    And It doesn’t sound so trivial if you’ve been prevented from posting for two months because of it.

    The response is not trivial, but the issue at hand is. Being gay is a trivial matter. It is no different than loving someone of another race or religion. The only issues with it are the ones we as people create.

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