Sorry, but no one is justifying men who rape

Feminists do not know what to do with Brock Turner. They had their narrative planned out quite well. They succeeded in getting people to call him a convicted rapist, despite Turner being convicted of sexual assault. They succeeded in turning people against Turner’s parents when they supported and defended their son. They succeeded in turning people against the judge who handed down the six-month sentence. They succeeded in getting numerous media outlets to relentlessly cover every bit of minutia about this case. They succeeded in getting the public to unanimously support the victim.

There is just one problem: most people bought the narrative.

The reason this presents a problem is because feminists need opposition for their narrative to work. They need people to fight against them, to disagree, and to object in order to play the victim. Yet that did not happen in this case. That leaves feminists in the odd position of shouting fire after dozens of fire trucks have pulled up and started putting out the blaze. At this point it is nothing but wet ash. Of course, feminists never allow pesky things like agreement get in their way.

CNN graced us with a piece by Roxanne Jones. Jones claims that people need to “stop justifying men who rape”. She cites Turner and Nate Parker, the producer Birth of a Nation, as examples of men whose supporters “justify” their behavior. From the article:

This isn’t about race, or privilege. It’s about decency and gender equality. It’s time to shut down those who profess to want justice while making excuses for the inexcusable, for men who prey on and abuse and violate women. Privilege breeds hypocrisy and it has corrupted our justice system.

The “excuses” she mentioned are people stating that Turner had an “easygoing personality that endears him to almost everyone he meets”, and of Parker “He’s a good man, his fans say, a loving father of four daughters. Stop trying to bring a good black man down, they say […]”.

Both those things can be true, and yet Turner and Parker could have done bad things. In Parker’s case, he was acquitted of rape. His case involved an instance in which the accuser claimed she was unconscious and did not consent. The woman later committed suicide, of which Parker recently spoke.

Jones’s problem is that she seems to forget that people are more than one thing. A person can do something horrible in one instance and something good in another. In these two cases, both men engaged in one questionable act. To say that the one act should permanently define their character, that they are essentially beyond redemption, is ridiculous.

What Turner did was wrong. He deserved more than three months in jail. Yet that does not mean that he cannot otherwise have been or later become a better person. To attack anyone noting what his general character is or was simply plays into a hate narrative. If you want to hate Turner, that is fine. However, you cannot pretend he is one thing.

The situation is more complicated with Parker because he was not convicted. One can argue whether having sex with an intoxicated woman smart or whether the woman was unconscious as she claimed. However, that is again one instance. Parker has clearly turned his life around and is no longer that person. If you want to hate Parker, that is fine. However, you cannot pretend he is one thing.

Yet basic logic does not stop Jones. She has a narrative, and she will stick to it:

Privilege protects superpredators, like Daniel Holtzclaw , the Oklahoma cop who hid behind his shield for three years as he raped 13 poor and vulnerable black women from ages 17 to 57. He was sentenced to 263 years after one brave women stood up and told her story and helped other victims testify. Holtzclaw still professes his innocence.

And where was Jones when a woman who raped children admitted to the court she would rape again? Where was Jones or any other feminists or activists when a woman recorded herself raping her 12-month-old son and received no jail time, despite distributing the video for money? Where was Jones and other feminists when two deaf women received suspended sentences after sexually abusing a boy for over decade?

And that is just three cases from this year. There are dozens more from 2016, and this blog has dozens more posts and articles about women who rape and get a pass. Is that not privilege? Jones does not appear to think so. She instead paints victims as exclusively female:

In response, society too often leaves women and young girls vulnerable and uninformed. Overused clichés like: “No means no,” which sound empowering at first, are good in theory but can be easily disputed in court, especially when heavy drinking is involved by both parties and the legal definition of consent is often unclear and varies state by state.

According to the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network, women ages 18-24 who are college students are three times more likely than women in general to experience sexual violence. Females of the same age who are not enrolled in college are four times more likely. On average, there are 288,820 victims (age 12 or older) of rape and sexual assault each year in the United States.

So it is only wrong when it happens to females? It is only wrong when it is done by males? Is that not a clear example of privilege?

Jones ends with this piece:

Act now, or keep making excuses. It’s your choice. But pray it’s never your daughter who reads in the paper one day how she was found naked and unconscious one cold night behind a dumpster and raped by a nice boy with a winning smile.

Pray that you never have to look into her eyes and explain why she doesn’t really deserve justice because she’s just a girl.

That is not what happened. What happened is that the judge looked at the facts of the case and decided on a short sentence. I agree it was a bad decision, but to claim that people think women do not deserve justice is nonsense. There are currently people armed with guns camped outside of Turner’s home. That does not happen if people do not care.

Likewise, a bill was proposed in California to change the law so that there is a mandatory minimum of three years for those convicted of assaulting unconscious victims. The bill appears to have broad support and will likely pass. Again, that does not happen if people do not care.

Stop pushing the phony narrative. No one is justifying rape. What they are saying is that the convicted sex offender and acquitted defendant are not altogether bad people. You do not have to agree with those positions, yet your disagreement with them does not make them “justifications” for rape.

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16 thoughts on “Sorry, but no one is justifying men who rape

  1. Good post. Truth and facts more generally no longer matter in our media. It’s really disturbing… but I digress.

    I no longer spend much time on this whole issue area as a result, nor this case, but I’m curious what you think of janice fiamengo’s YT video about brock turner.

  2. Those women are baloney anyway. Cops don’t rape a bunch of women and expect to get away with it. And black women tend to be the most deceiving of all.

  3. “Privilege protects superpredators […]”

    Oh, “superpredators”. When was that word last uttered in a widely familiar manner? Oh, that’s right, the ’90s, when the Clintons, teaming up with the conservatives, were imposing harsh criminal policies which did not work and have uselessly filled up prisons with tons and tons of prisoners, whose rights are violated day after day after day. Or, since the majority of said prisoners are male, policies which reinforced and heavily increased male disposabilty.

  4. People DID attempt to defend Turner. As they should because everyone deserves a defense.
    The most troubling part of the story was the way those people were treated. The activists did not even bother attempting to have any sort of dialogue with Turners defenders, they simply went straight to censorship and literally harassing people that knew him. Ironically even sending rape threats.

  5. River:

    Those women are baloney anyway. Cops don’t rape a bunch of women and expect to get away with it. And black women tend to be the most deceiving of all.

    If you have a problem with women, I suggest you take it elsewhere. This is not the place for you to vent about how much you dislike the opposite sex. This is me being polite. Do it again, and I will be blunt.

  6. Allan, I have not watched Fiamengo’s video yet. I am aware, however, that there are some questions about the nature of the woman’s interactions with Turner prior to the incident. I am also aware that the woman did not recall the assault due to her level of intoxication.

  7. Toy Soldier, like I’ve said before, no disrespect to you, at all. But if you are questioning cases involving women who are “supposedly raped” by these men than why can’t anyone else?
    It seems with your lastest comment you are questioning “raped women”. Sounds to me like that is a doubt you have about male to female rape cases. The same doubt I have. And I could tell you loads about accusations about cases like that.

  8. River, there is a difference between doubt and bigotry. One can doubt the evidence presented in case, yet not make broad claims about certain groups being “deceiving”. The former is an application of logic. The latter is pure stupidity.

  9. So are we all on the same page that male to female rape cases are more likely to be questionable lies? Just making sure we’re on the same page here.

    I honestly don’t know if I could ever raise girls, and it’s my opinion because I don’t know what I could stomach teaching them. And like I’ve said a million times, I used to work in a high school. I spent a lot of time around girls. I know what they’re like and the things they say. Using their face and nails to get to these boys weaknesses are just a start.

    Brock Turner is a good looking guy, who is probably really smart and has a future for him, and people just want to use him as an example. The little thing who accused him was probably just using him anyway and when she decided that she made a mistake, decided to cry rape. Same thing with the officer of the law. And with thone females who accused him Im sure he had every single reason in the book to stop and question them. Who would want rape those? And like I’ve said before I know personally what cases like these are like.

    Sorry, ladies you don’t get to cry rape AND abuse boys.

  10. River:

    So are we all on the same page that male to female rape cases are more likely to be questionable lies? Just making sure we’re on the same page here.

    We are not. It is more likely that if someone were to lie about rape the accuser would be female. That is not the same as claiming that male-on-female rape cases are more likely to be lies.

    I honestly don’t know if I could ever raise girls, and it’s my opinion because I don’t know what I could stomach teaching them.

    Given your apparent dislike of women, it would be best if you did not have children at all. We would not want you to pass on antipathy toward to your sons.

    Brock Turner is a good looking guy, who is probably really smart and has a future for him, and people just want to use him as an example.

    I agree that people want to use him as an example. He is white, male, straight, and comes from a well-off family. He is the perfect archetype for the type of male the progressive left despises.

    The little thing who accused him was probably just using him anyway and when she decided that she made a mistake, decided to cry rape.

    The woman could have decided she was raped after learning what happened and realizing she could not remember anything because she had been so drunk. Yet that would not explain the two men who had to pull Turner off the woman, or that Turner ran and had to be held down until the police arrived, or that he repeatedly lied to the police about his previous alcohol and drug use.

    Same thing with the officer of the law. And with thone females who accused him Im sure he had every single reason in the book to stop and question them. Who would want rape those? And like I’ve said before I know personally what cases like these are like.

    I told you before that if you did this again I would be blunt. Keep your sexist idiocy to yourself. If you do not like women, tell it to them. I will not pretend to care.

    Sorry, ladies you don’t get to cry rape AND abuse boys.

    That is the idiocy I mentioned above. A person can be both a rapist and a victim of rape. However, most women are not rapists nor do they lie about being raped. This kind of logic just makes you look stupid.

  11. What about the officer? Do white men really rape black women? Maybe the pretty ones who don’t speak ebonics talk. But still, why would they want to? That’s what I’m getting bringing up Daniel Holtzclaw.

  12. Lurker, you’re speaking to someone who has survived being beaten and sexually abused as a teenager. And who is no longer working at a highschool due to a liar.

    What is it really? You believe I’m a “troll” because of my beliefs. Yes. There are quite a few people around who believe some of the things that I do. Is it that you can’t face reality about the issues I bring up?

    Don’t worry about me, and others like me, feeding into the leftist plan to expose “someone like me”. People like me exist whether we are exposed or not. The leftists would love for you to think I’m a “troll” to “prove” to you that “people like me” exist. Well we do. We don’t need exposure from them.
    My beliefs are NOTHING NEW. I didn’t make it up, it’s what I have seen and experienced.

  13. With each article, I can tell that feminists are STILL failing to understand rape and sexual abuse, they’re nowhere NEAR being able to get their heads round the problem, let alone solving it.

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