Dave Rubin interviews ‘The Red Pill’ director Cassie Jaye

Dave Rubin interviewed Cassie Jaye on the Rubin Report. Jaye directed The Red Pill, a documentary about the men’s rights movement. Jaye is a feminist and began the documentary as an attempt to look at the movement from a critical lens. She originally planned to make a film about “rape culture”, but shifted her focus after reading several articles by men’s rights activists that were critical of the theory. She decided to explore the men’s rights movement, partly to understand what it was about and partly to reveal the sexism within the movement other feminists warned her about.

However, during the process she found her views changing, and the film changed along with it. Instead of purely focusing on the men’s rights movement, Jaye also included her video journals about her changing perceptive on men’s issues. She initially doubled down on her feminism after the first series of interviews. It was further interviews with feminists and their reaction to her film that started to evolve her position.

Feminists expected the film to be a hit piece on the men’s rights movement. Jaye wanted to tell a balanced story. As a result, some of the feminists who initially agreed to interviews withdrew. Other feminists attacked her online, trying to sabotage the film. They largely succeeded, as no one would finance the film due to its content. Keep in mind, this happened without anyone seeing any of the footage Jaye filmed. No one knew anything about the stories shared in the interviews or how Jaye would cut the film. All they knew was that she did not intend to attack the men’s rights movement.

Jaye managed to fund the film via Kickstarter, and then started on the path to getting the film shown. That also proved difficult as many festivals do not have a category for “men’s issues” or “men’s rights”. She has also faced backlash from feminists who repeatedly tried to block the film, in some instances with success.

Again, all of this happened without any of the feminists involved seeing the film. They do not know what is in it. They only know that the film is not a hit piece, therefore it must be silenced.

Ironically, Jaye is feminist. She began as a feminist, and while her views on certain issues have changed, she remains a feminist. One would think this would be enough, yet as feminists have repeatedly shown, those who do not follow the mainstream party line will be mauled for their lack of obedience.

This led to another irony: it was feminists, not men’s rights activists, who behaved in a threatening, harassing, and bullying manner. The so-called champions for gender equality revealed that they are not concerned about equality or even women’s rights. All their posturing is simply a method for them to gain and maintain power.

It is also a method of protecting their narrative, which is their real complaint. Feminists wove a narrative about men’s rights activists as bearded, basement-dwelling losers with fake problems. Feminists and their supporters control large swathes of the media, so this narrative can get out without much scrutiny. This film shatters that narrative by allowing men’s rights activists to speak for themselves. While Jaye certainly puts the comments through a filter, this is primarily due to editing for time, not to present a specific narrative.

The reason this frightens feminists so much is that their narrative claims men’s rights activists are hardcore misogynists. A film showing exactly what these men and women say, which rarely lines up with the feminist narrative, reveals the feminist attack for what it is: ironically sexist.

Feminists are the ones harboring an underlying hatred based on sex. They simply project their sexism onto the men’s rights movement because those people have the audacity to challenge feminism and talk about men’s issues.

I have not seen the film. Hopefully the film becomes available online on Netflix or Hulu or some similar platform. I would like to see it if only to see how Jaye’s position changed. I think that the more people see what men’s rights activists actually think and say, the less hold feminism will have on our society.

While I do not endorse every men’s rights movement position, I do think it is important to allow everyone to state position without being maligned. You never know whether they may actually have a point.

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2 thoughts on “Dave Rubin interviews ‘The Red Pill’ director Cassie Jaye

  1. In my more naive days, I arranged a public showing of “Boys and Men Healing” (from childhood sexual abuse) at the University of Minnesota. If you don’t know of it, it’s a very accurate description (w/o a lot of emotional drama) of later sequela/effects of CSA on men. A social work professor brought a bunch of his students to come get to know the mind of some sex offenders. In the discussion afterwards, he declared all men like this belong in sex offender treatment. One of the students broke down crying and fled the room. Others wondered aloud rather confused…just…how to treat someone who has no memory, no admission, no conviction of offending. Just, they are offenders. End of story.

    This may be a very well done film, but I think it will be similarly ignored, unknown and have next to no effect. If truth and clear arguments were so compelling, history would be very different.

  2. Sounds interesting, especially how one changes one’s mind about a group in that way after being in contact with them. I have a friend from university who originally came over from Ireland, and originally she HATED English people over Anglo-Irish conflict in the past (mostly through what she’d been taught). She also thought that English people were cold and aloof, but here lies the rub: she’d never actually MET any English people, and her views changed after actually living in England for a few years, and we’re still friends now.

    To be honest, the best approach to the MRM (as with any movement, even their feminist counterparts) is to pay attention to what they have to say, take it on board, and weigh up whether if it is legit. Let’s face it, both movements have ugly rhetoric amongst themselves, but both have legitimate talking points and issues to bring up. Responding with rhetorical bullshit or jamming one’s fingers in their ears is no good either. In the end, the truth will out, wherever it might lead us.

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